Discussing Other Lovers

topic posted Mon, November 5, 2007 - 2:44 PM by  Jennifer
Do you talk about the other people you are involved with romantically with your lovers? I am with a man that I encourage to talk about the other women in his life because I adore him and just plain want to be close to him...want to know him. He speaks of his family, frriends, and people he works with on occasion so why wouldn't he speak about his loves! He has become better about offering information (he was hesitant because other women in his past became insecure/jealous if he would discuss other women)...but he doesn't seem to want to know about the other people I am involved with. It's to the point where I see him shift around a bit and look away if I speak of another lover. The only time he seems at all interrested in that part of my life is if there is a chance for a threesome. *sigh* LOL

It saddens me a bit because I feel like there is a whole other side of myself that I can just never share with him. It feels like I have finally seen the limitations within this relationship and that very often helps me loose intrest....quickly

So I would love to hear other poly people's preferences and why. Any thoughts you care to share are appreciated.
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Jennifer
Sacramento
  • Re: Discussing Other Lovers

    Mon, November 5, 2007 - 8:59 PM
    Even though i'm a little new at conscienscious polyamory i've been in both kinds of relationships. I prefer the communications about our other lovers, to the limits of privacy i've established with my other partners. I've been in a relationship with the other extreme, where one of my partners wanted to know nothing about any of the others. The ones I'm in now are somewhere in between. on the whole I think it's better to know a lot. It helps make the changes more visable. i mean, they're inevitable so knowing enough to deal is good as long as you deal with the right stuff to deal with teh changes as they come.
    • Re: Discussing Other Lovers

      Mon, November 5, 2007 - 10:49 PM
      It's really tricky when different partners have different comfort levels with disclosure. When it comes to what I prefer people to say - or not - about me...well, I tried to have some control over what my partner could and couldn't say about me or what was going on with us to his other lovers, but realized that was just too difficult - and unfair.

      I've since come to realize that I don't really have any control over what happens to anything I say or do, once it's in the hands of someone else. Even someone I trust as completely as my husband may share things with another partner - or even just a close friend - in order to work through an issue or conflict or to organize a surprise (I LIKE that part....). I do it with my best friend, so why shouldn't he?

      And then there's email or online friends-only posts - they might be (and have been) shared without my knowledge to who knows how many people. People do that, even with the best of intentions, and there's nothing I can do to prevent it.

      What that realization has done for me is to make me more reflective, less reactive, more deliberative about what I say and write. I try to run everything through my integrity filter, distill my emotions and thoughts until they're as clear and generous as I can possibly make them, aware of the consequences of divulging something that I wouldn't want someone else to learn about.

      It doesn't always work, but just having that message running subliminally in the background has made a world of difference.

      As far as wanting my partner to share stuff, that's really hard because some things he just doesn't feel are as important as I do, some things he just wants to savor privately, and some things his other partner may have asked him not to share. So, I ask when I want to know, and usually I get enough information to satisfy my needs. If not, then we talk about it some more. sometimes I just have to be patient and wait. And trust. It's quite an intense process sometimes, but worth the effort so far!
      • Re: Discussing Other Lovers

        Tue, November 6, 2007 - 7:10 AM
        Thank you for your responce. I agree...we really have no control over other people's reactions to what we say. That is too much energy for me to spend anyway...I prefer to keep things open and very honest and hopefully my partner will deal. If not...they aren't the right fit.
  • Re: Discussing Other Lovers

    Wed, November 7, 2007 - 7:02 AM
    I fully agree with what Nancy said...it is tricky and we can't control what another person talks about outside of our relationship with them (though I am also very private at times, and have set specific limits regarding that). I have to trust that H will talk lovingly about me, even if he is venting, or working out an issue. Trust is not an easy thing for me regarding that.

    On the trust note, when he and I first got together, I was uncomfortable talking about my experiences with other people, and he really wanted to know. He wanted to share my life with me, be a part of it, and though I also intellectually wanted the same, I was not used to that. It was very uncomfortable for me, but I eventually learned to share what I could, and learned how to say 'I am not comfortable sharing' when I couldn't. I also had to learn and then be able to speak about the fact that I could only share as much as my lovers were comfortable with, that their privacy was as much a part of what I could or would share as my own. It was not easy for me at first, my need for privacy had been hammered into me by someone that allowed me no privacy and tried to control everything I did. It took awhile to learn that this situation was different than the old one and that I wasn't giving someone ammo to use against me, but sharing with my partner what was going on in my life. It is essential now to do that.

    As for how much I can or can't hear, it is entirely unpredictable at this point and I never know what it is that will spark insecurities or not. I ask to know what he feels he needs or really wants to share with me, what is important to him. I don't need or want to hear inconsequential things.

    I believe that communication about this is paramount. If he is shifting about uncomfortably when you tell him about your other lovers, ask him why. And that would also be a good time to tell him why you need/desire to share this with him. It would also be a good time to talk about why you want to be a part of his life that way, and even ways to help alleviate some of his fears/concerns.
    • Re: Discussing Other Lovers

      Thu, November 8, 2007 - 2:27 PM
      Thank you for responding to my post. :) Yes I have tried to bring up his body language and asked if he was comforatable hearing about what I do. He was vague at best. I have backed off a little but will address it if it comes up again. For now I just take the cue to not divulge information unless it is requested.
      • Re: Discussing Other Lovers

        Fri, November 9, 2007 - 12:45 PM
        I understand not wanting to push yourself and sex life and what not on someone else, but he is your lover and this is important enough to you to post it on tribe...it isn't a trivial thing. I don't think talking about your emotional needs or how you react to what he does or doesn't do is pushy (I know you didn't say it was), it is just clear communication. Your needs are as important as his.
  • Re: Discussing Other Lovers

    Wed, November 7, 2007 - 10:29 AM
    I strongly prefer to be able to talk about my other lovers openly and in detail. When everything works well they talk to eachother and maintain their own friendship as well. I am currently in the first relationship where it's been a no no to talk about my other lover and that is wearing on me. I hate having to check myself when talking about my day, or what's been going on with me, why I'm in whichever random mood I'm inhabiting, etc.
    • Re: Discussing Other Lovers

      Thu, November 8, 2007 - 2:24 PM
      Oh how I relate! I wish that things could be more open in my relationship. He seems uninterrested if not turned off by my mentioning other people. I wonder if he truely cares to know me or not some days.
    • Re: Discussing Other Lovers

      Fri, November 9, 2007 - 1:22 PM
      If we were all a little more like Myriad in this we'd be a lot better off. I have to say it's been a lot easier on me beiing open and not doing anything i would be ashamed of rather than being secretive and asking all who know me to support my secrecy habit.

      One thing i do and this is important; regardless of what i've worked out with my partners, i only talk about them with respect. I could be walking around with an unresolved issue about a person but i will not make declarations out of any half-baked stuff i might be running through my consciousness. I may ask another friend for advise, and share some of my unresolved thoughts but it is only with the interest of helping me straighten myself out about the issue, not as any commentary on the person that i've got the issue with.

      So in a way i am checking myself, but i'm doing it across the board, shaping what i take time to think about and what i don't bother investing energy into.
      • Re: Discussing Other Lovers

        Fri, November 9, 2007 - 11:49 PM
        it seems like the concept of talking about lovers, only out of respect, with a desire to work stuff out seems to be the only way to foster trust. For me, I am really paranoid about being gossiped about (let's just say my mother loves to do that, and doesn't get to talk to me because of this). So to know that my mate believes this too (the respect, not talking shit aspect), makes things a whole lot easier. This is something I have always believed in, but believing others will also do this is not easy.

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